Is God a Person?

8 thoughts on “Is God a Person?”

    1. “Behold, I say unto you, that the good shepherd doth call you; yea, and in his own name he doth call you, which is the name of Christ; and if ye will not hearken unto the voice of the good shepherd, to the name by which ye are called, behold, ye are not the sheep of the good shepherd.” (Alma 5:38)

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  1. Bryce, understanding the separateness of the Gods is, IMO, essential to understanding their oneness. If we don’t get that right–at some point we’re gonna go off the rails with respect to our understanding of their unity.

    I believe that Joseph Smith published that particular version (1838) of his vision because, with hindsight, he had a better understanding of the mysteries and purposes of God regarding the restorative process of His Kingdom.

    That said, though I find some of the things you talk about here to be most intriguing, I must say that, on the other hand, there are some things you speak of that trouble me deeply–that ought not to be said, if I may be so frank. Tread carefully, brother. You’re walking on sacred ground.

    One more thing: Maybe you’ve already posted on this subject–and I’ve missed it, but, I’d be interested in hearing your thoughts on the purposes of the Holy Priesthood and it’s role in the process of theosis.

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    1. Thank you for sharing your thoughts, Jack. I perceive that God does not want us to be separate from God; that is where we are now in our “fallen” state, outside the presence of God, separate and apart from God.

      I perceive that God is infinitely One, and wants us to realize our part of that infinite Oneness. Any “Gods” that there may be are infinitely One in God. For example, Jesus is often said to be a God. But he is not a separate God from that which is often called the “Father.” They are just One God. There is no separation in them.

      There is only One, and yet there may be an infinite diversity within that infinite Oneness, it seems to me. This is one of the Mysteries of Godliness that doesn’t make sense to us with our standard models of logic and reason, which is why it is a “mystery” to us. Most of us can only think in dualistic terms, which is part of our fallen state, and can’t understand unity or non-duality.

      However, when we realize our Godliness, the divine nature within us, we come to realize that we are One in God too, that there is only One, and we are a part of that One, a manifestation of that One, an emanation of that One, and we always have been and just didn’t know it. Our perception was obscured; we were “blind” in our consciousness of reality. When our ego psychological self identity falls away, this self-consciousness that emerged hundreds of thousands of years ago in humans, and which arises early in our own childhood, when that falls away, then we realize our true identity is One in God.

      I wrote a post about the priesthood that may be found at this link: https://thymindoman.com/2017/10/28/what-is-priesthood-and-ordination/

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  2. Some of what you say resonates with me. But much of it is, IMO, out in the weeds. I don’t want to challenge the veracity of your personal experiences. Even so, it seems to me that — and this is according to my own lights — what you’re tapping into is that place in the mind that exists beneath the divisions, constructs and scaffolding we build in our efforts to negotiate the world around us. It’s a place where consciousness is at it’s purest; where there is no morality or judgment imposed upon one’s identity–and, as such, it can be a wonderfully euphoric experience to go there. So, what I’m saying is, while you may be experiencing something real, it’s when you extrapolate that experience onto the entire realm of metaphysics that you go too far–beyond the mark, as it were.

    Sorry if this seems harsh. But I fear that what you’re doing isn’t going to sustain you forever.

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    1. Yes, it is tapping into a place of mind and consciousness that is pure, undivided, holy, perfect, sacred, undefiled, whole, complete, holistic, unitive, unbounded, infinite, sinless, stainless, bright, radiant, good, and beautiful. We might say that it is the living “Christ.” Yes, we need something of an embodied ego in order to navigate and negotiate the world and our lives, to construct a container for our lives (as Richard Rohr puts it). But once that container is constructed, once we can navigate the world and live in the world, that is the extent to which the ego is helpful. At some point, I perceive, we must lose that ego if we are to see the reality of the world and our true nature. The ego is a construction in consciousness, built up of experiences and memories, and so it cannot be fundamental to our nature. We have a more enduring and infinite nature, and this we can perceive directly once the ego steps out of the way, once it is “taken out of the way” (2 Thes. 2:7).

      Is there a danger of “no morality” in this state of mind, no “right and wrong”? No. I perceive it is obtaining this state of mind wherein one comes to know with infinite perfection God’s will, for I perceive it *is* God’s mind. In union with God’s mind we know precisely what God wants, what God wills, even what is good, true, light, beauty, right, and correct, and how to conduct our lives according to Truth. We know it from the source, because we have joined our mind and soul in union with the Source, a perfect At-one-ment. God writes his law, the new covenant, directly onto our heart and mind (Hebrews 8:10; Hebrews 10:16). There is no external judge imposing laws on us, because we have at-oned with the Judge, and therefore know the law by Heart.

      This, I perceive, is the way to truly be sustained forever. All other laws, rituals, commandments, authorities, principalities, powers, and dominions will fail. But the Infinite Atonement, that most Perfect and Pure perception of Love and Oneness in our heart and mind, is Eternal. There is nothing that will destroy it. It never fails! (Moroni 7:46-47). There are some words in the Tao Te Ching that speak of this:

      This is the profound union.
      No one can get close to you,
      yet they cannot be distant either.
      No one can help or harm you.
      No one can honor or disgrace you.
      Thus you achieve the highest state of humankind.

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